[MiloandBella]

Hi,

I have 2 Chi's Milo (Male) is 10 months, and Bella (female) is 8 months. She's having her first heat and started to bleed this morning. Having a male and her in heat I just wondered when she is fertile?

I've looked all over the internet but it varies with most saying a few days after the bleeding stops. Obviously I don't want her to get pregnant as she is so young.

Once I know when she is 'fertile' a friend will be looking after her until it passes so there is no 'accidents', but I want that to be as short a time as possible. If it's now I need to make the arrangements, can anyone help with when and how long she will be fertile for?

 

[michele]

Could you get your male neutered ?

 

[~LS~]

Get your male neutered now, and get your female spayed once her heat passes. And meanwhile keep them in separate rooms.

 

[MiloandBella]

Hi,
Thanks very much for the replies. I would eventually like to breed them, when Bella is around 2 all being well. They're so attached to each other it's difficult to keep them apart. I'm just not sure when her fertile period is?

 

[~LS~]

Why would you want to breed when you are lacking such basic knowledge?
I don't mean to come off rude, I just don't understand. I would think that
before you actually breed you'd find a mentor and inform yourself on the
hobby of breeding. What are your reasons for wanting to breed in the first
place? (if you don't mind me asking)

 

[20887]

Hi,
Thanks very much for the replies. I would eventually like to breed them, when Bella is around 2 all being well. They're so attached to each other it's difficult to keep them apart. I'm just not sure when her fertile period is?

It really doesn't matter that much when she is fertile.. Either way, you need to keep her and your male separated at all times. Even if she isn't fertile, they can still tie and seriously injure one another.

 

[pupluv168]

It is extremely difficult to keep unaltered males from females in heat. You have to be constantly vigilant during her entire cycle because, as already stated, pregnancy isn't the only concern. They can hurt each other. If it were me, I would alter at least one of them. That way you can still breed the other if and when you are prepared and knowledgable. As LS said, if you are serious about breeding you have a long way to go (health testing, pedigree research, learning how to whelp and raise pups, financially preparing for a likely c-section, etc). Right now, your goal should be keeping your dogs separated and healthy. Good luck.

 

[MiloandBella]

Thanks again for the helpful replies. I was thinking of starting a puppy farm and until I do I've made arrangements for Bella to stay with a friend. Suppose we all start somewhere and some spend days researching and gaining knowledge before jumping in, unfortunately some unscrupulous people don't, and breed with terrible consequences. Thank goodness it's not us all, or there would be no adorable Chi's for anyone, one being my brother and family who are desperate for a Chi, but as I have told them, only if it's in Bella's best interest. <Sigh> wish it was all about the money for me I would then just breed tea cups!
Thanks Missy & Puplove I know I do which is why I'm asking and that's very helpful

 

[theshanman97]

sorry but if i was you i wouldnt use the term "Puppy farm"! that is a place where puppies are bred for money in poor conditions! and also if you did mean what i think by "Tea cups" then you are WAY uneducated! tea cups do not exist! its a sick ploy by breeders to sell them for more! im sorry but you should not even THINK about breeding in till you have that basic knowledge!

 

[Brodysmom]

here's a place to start for basic info on breeding.

http://www.chihuahua-people.com/chihuahua-breeders-breeding/48665-you-thinking-about-breeding.html

 

[MiloandBella]

Please re-read the post, it was dripping with sarcasm...my pet hate is puppy farms and tea cups, please read a post properly before you jump in, thanks.

Thank you Brodysmom.

Do you have alot of people posting trying to stir up trouble in here? It's a serious question because the above poster is either very young/dense/or trying to stir things, another pet hate of mine, so if so I'd rather know now and go and sign up elsewhere, I hate the forums where you ask a simple question and everyone goes off on a tangent instead of answering your question. (My original post was NOT about breeding) It borders on troll like, or at least deliberate stirring...

 

[theshanman97]

Please re-read the post, it was dripping with sarcasm...my pet hate is puppy farms and tea cups, please read a post properly before you jump in, thanks.

Thank you Brodysmom.

Do you have alot of people posting trying to stir up trouble in here? It's a serious question because the above poster is either very young/dense/or trying to stir things, another pet hate of mine, so if so I'd rather know now and go and sign up elsewhere, I hate the forums where you ask a simple question and everyone goes off on a tangent instead of answering your question. (My original post was NOT about breeding) It borders on troll like, or at least deliberate stirring...

im sorry but i didnt read it like that! if it was ment to i am sorry! and no i am NOT a troll! ive been on here many months now! i dont stir trouble i just didnt read it the way it was ment to be!

 

[theshanman97]

also i MENT to say wouldnt now would!

 

[jesuschick]

Shannon is a 14 year old. Not a troll.

You'd be surprised the people who pop in here, have no history and their first posts are just like yours and unlike you indicate, they are ill informed, defensive and rude.

We've just gotten used to that. Backyard breeders make this group a bit edgy. It may have come across that is what you were from your initial post. Hence the line of questioning.

You've been given some great information. Breeding is to better the breed, not just make cute puppies (regardless their size).

 

[michele]

Please re-read the post, it was dripping with sarcasm...my pet hate is puppy farms and tea cups, please read a post properly before you jump in, thanks.

Thank you Brodysmom.

Do you have alot of people posting trying to stir up trouble in here? It's a serious question because the above poster is either very young/dense/or trying to stir things, another pet hate of mine, so if so I'd rather know now and go and sign up elsewhere, I hate the forums where you ask a simple question and everyone goes off on a tangent instead of answering your question. (My original post was NOT about breeding) It borders on troll like, or at least deliberate stirring...

1. While we all have opinions, please keep your posts polite and friendly. Be respectful of others opinions even if you don’t agree - We will not tolerate spamming or flaming

 

[MiloandBella]

I understood what you meant theshanman, I can't imagine anyone being pro-puppy farms (unless they have a puppy farm). Thanks, pleased you understand now what I was trying to get across..

Jesuschick, I asked a very simple question and expected a very simple answer, not an off topic slamming. If you read my original post there was absolutely nothing in it that indicated I was even going to breed them, that came after everyone had 'replied', so saying people became defensive because of my original post is a moot point, and completely untrue.

If someone had asked me outright 'are you a backyard breeder' I could have given them a definitive no, but instead I got flamed, so of course I'm going to reply to that.

I've said thank you for all the information I have been given, and have also never said breeding Chi's is 'because they are cute', I said they are adorable (because they are), and that I would breed Bella if all was as it should be. I'm assuming there are some breeders in here, and I'm also assuming they all started somewhere.

Jan, I was polite and friendly, and have since always been polite, the unfriendliness comes from other posters not reading posts correctly and having (as jesuschick has said) a mindset before you get a chance to be part of the group.

 

[20887]

You did state in your second post that you wanted to breed them. I do not feel my post was rude. You asked when your dog was fertile so you could keep them separated, and I answered your question by saying that they need
to be separate at all times through her entire season.

In my opinion, a family member wanting a chi is not a good reason to breed your dog, which you said in your other post(unless you were joking). There are many reputable breeders who show and have their dogs evaluated, and there are also rescues in shelters that need homes.

 

[~LS~]

I'm so confused by your words, I don't understand what is sarcasm and what
isn't. I do know that my post was not rude, I asked a question out of curiosity,
that's it, that's all.

 

[theshanman97]

I'm so confused by your words, I don't understand what is sarcasm and what
isn't. I do know that my post was not rude, I asked a question out of curiosity,
that's it, that's all.

yeah im confused too! :S x