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Just wondering, does anyone do their own shots?

I am planning on starting. I've had a small bit of training, and helped my breeder do her last round of shots just to see if I could handle it alright and it went just fine.

We have to have rabies done by the vet, still, but I would much rather not be paying $60 at the vet for a $5 vaccination!
 

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I've given shots before and have had no problems. But then I don't believe in vaccinateing yearly. I give shots once every 3 years.
 

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I've given shots before and have had no problems. But then I don't believe in vaccinateing yearly. I give shots once every 3 years.
I agree about the annual shots... I don't do them either.
 

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A couple things to keep in mind ....

Are you buying from a company that you feel confident in? Vaccines must be kept at a constant temperature. (refigerated). If you order from a mail order company and the ice pack is melted, will the vaccine be damaged? Was it mishandled during packing or shipping?

Do you know the difference between Modified Live vaccine versus Killed or Recombinant? Do you know which is preferred and why?

Do you realize that Lepto and Corona are no longer recommended and that the 5 way vaccine (that many companies continue to sell) can actually cause lasting vaccine damage?

Do you know what to do in case your dog has an allergic or anaphylactic reaction to the vaccine? Do you have epinephrine on hand in case his throat would suddenly swell shut or corticosteroids to decrease dangerous inflammation/swelling, especially in the face/neck?

Does your vet recognize owner given shots as valid? If not, then some vets won't treat a pet that hasn't been vaccinated and the vaccines will have to be given again by the vet.

Rabies must, by law, be given by a licensed veterinarian in most states. Do you know what your local ordinances are?

Are you aware of the risks of vaccine induced sarcomas? Do you know how to give a subcutaneous injection versus an intramuscular one? What if you inject into a blood vessel?

Yes, vaccines can be an expense. But you are not only paying for the vaccine from the vet, but you are buying the administration from a licensed professional who knows the risks/benefits, who has the back-up in the office for an emergency reaction, as well as paying for the initial exam and record keeping of your pet. Many vets frown upon lay people doing injections themselves and the line between practicing medicine without a license is a very thin one. Be sure you weigh the risks and benefits and KNOW what you are doing.
 

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A couple things to keep in mind ....

Are you buying from a company that you feel confident in? Vaccines must be kept at a constant temperature. (refigerated). If you order from a mail order company and the ice pack is melted, will the vaccine be damaged? Was it mishandled during packing or shipping?

Do you know the difference between Modified Live vaccine versus Killed or Recombinant? Do you know which is preferred and why?

Do you realize that Lepto and Corona are no longer recommended and that the 5 way vaccine (that many companies continue to sell) can actually cause lasting vaccine damage?

Do you know what to do in case your dog has an allergic or anaphylactic reaction to the vaccine? Do you have epinephrine on hand in case his throat would suddenly swell shut or corticosteroids to decrease dangerous inflammation/swelling, especially in the face/neck?

Does your vet recognize owner given shots as valid? If not, then some vets won't treat a pet that hasn't been vaccinated and the vaccines will have to be given again by the vet.

Rabies must, by law, be given by a licensed veterinarian in most states. Do you know what your local ordinances are?

Are you aware of the risks of vaccine induced sarcomas? Do you know how to give a subcutaneous injection versus an intramuscular one? What if you inject into a blood vessel?

Yes, vaccines can be an expense. But you are not only paying for the vaccine from the vet, but you are buying the administration from a licensed professional who knows the risks/benefits, who has the back-up in the office for an emergency reaction, as well as paying for the initial exam and record keeping of your pet. Many vets frown upon lay people doing injections themselves and the line between practicing medicine without a license is a very thin one. Be sure you weigh the risks and benefits and KNOW what you are doing.
All very good points =) I have looked into the local ordinances. They only require that rabies be given by the vet. I've talked to our vet, and he is perfectly fine with me giving the others, and we discussed what ones we think would be most effective. I've also talked quite a good deal to my breeder about it. In a few years I plan to start breeding, so I'd rather get used to giving shots now versus later. My vet gave me the info from their supplier and I can order individual vaccines or sets of 10.

I live in a small town where there are only a few vets, and the vet is just glad the dogs will be receiving the vaccines. Many here, don't, even though there are more dogs in our town than people!

I think many people do not realize that breeders do shots themselves. Most puppies have never seen a vet before they went home with you. And a breeder is NOT a vet. Even the best of breeders do their own shots...otherwise our pups would cost much, much more! That's why any good breeder requires contractually that we take our pups to the vet within 72 hours.

For me, giving my own shots makes sense. It's not just to save $, as that really isn't an issue, but I like the element of control I get.
 

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I am not sure what the laws are in Australia. I haven't heard of any breeders giving shots themselves. It doesn't mean that they aren't, i just haven't heard of it. I know when we have bought a puppy or kitten they always have had their shots and they have been done by a vet.
It is really up to you. If you feel confident that you can do it in a safe way then it should all be good...... :) good luck which ever way you go.
 

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All very good points =) I have looked into the local ordinances. They only require that rabies be given by the vet. I've talked to our vet, and he is perfectly fine with me giving the others, and we discussed what ones we think would be most effective. I've also talked quite a good deal to my breeder about it. In a few years I plan to start breeding, so I'd rather get used to giving shots now versus later. My vet gave me the info from their supplier and I can order individual vaccines or sets of 10.

I live in a small town where there are only a few vets, and the vet is just glad the dogs will be receiving the vaccines. Many here, don't, even though there are more dogs in our town than people!

I think many people do not realize that breeders do shots themselves. Most puppies have never seen a vet before they went home with you. And a breeder is NOT a vet. Even the best of breeders do their own shots...otherwise our pups would cost much, much more! That's why any good breeder requires contractually that we take our pups to the vet within 72 hours.

For me, giving my own shots makes sense. It's not just to save $, as that really isn't an issue, but I like the element of control I get.
Oh yes, I realize that many breeders give their own shots. I also know of several people who have had anaphylactic reactions with their dogs that were deadly, so I have seen both sides.

If you are willing to take the risk and there is no law against it, then I can see where you would want to do it.

Be sure and educate yourself though on types of vaccines and ages to give them. This is an evolving field of study. Dr. Dodds is the leader in vaccine information and changing protocols. Her recommendations are top notch as far as what vaccines and at what age to get them.

This country over vaccinates their pets in a huge way and we are seeing the fallout from it in terms of allergies, seizure disorders, immune problems, etc. There's a lot of information out there if you search for it on vaccinosis.

Here's Dr. Dodds protocol and an informative article she wrote that you might be interested in ....

http://www.doglogic.com/vaccination.htm

And here's a good link on the duration of immunity and why minimal vaccines are recommended ....

http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm
 

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i used to give my own to all my puppies and adult dogs . I would keep the labels and take a copy to my job at the time was at a vet so i just put it in their folder
 

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All those advisements were informative. A friend of mine that's a groomer told me that with the amt of dogs they have that she goes to the local feed store and is able to buy one that she needs there. I don't recall which one she said it was but it's one of those that the vet would give and she saves money by not paying a vet. I could never give a shot. That's why I didn't go ahead and enter into any nursing programs. (lol)
 

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I do my own vaccinations, except of course like everyone's said, Rabies that has to be done by a DVM.
The procedure itself is not difficult, as they are sub-cutaneous as opposed to intramuscular.
HOWEVER I *do* make sure to purchase the vaccines directly from the vet. There are pet stores as well as Farm & Fleet which sell a 5-Way DHLP Combo shot- but IMO I personally would not give any vaccine that my veterinarian didn't recommend. So, buying the shot directly from them eliminates that. Too many reactions from some of the other store-bought ones. The way I see it, it's just like flea preventative.. I'd never buy any of the store brand Hartz, Sergeants, etc. flea stuff from a store just like I won't buy their vaccines.
Most vets will dispense a vaccine to you if you ask; however they don't typically announce/offer it.. so it's kinda one of those things that most are perfectly willing to do, you just have to ask.
 

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I do my own vaccinations, except of course like everyone's said, Rabies that has to be done by a DVM.
The procedure itself is not difficult, as they are sub-cutaneous as opposed to intramuscular.
HOWEVER I *do* make sure to purchase the vaccines directly from the vet. There are pet stores as well as Farm & Fleet which sell a 5-Way DHLP Combo shot- but IMO I personally would not give any vaccine that my veterinarian didn't recommend. So, buying the shot directly from them eliminates that. Too many reactions from some of the other store-bought ones. The way I see it, it's just like flea preventative.. I'd never buy any of the store brand Hartz, Sergeants, etc. flea stuff from a store just like I won't buy their vaccines.
Most vets will dispense a vaccine to you if you ask; however they don't typically announce/offer it.. so it's kinda one of those things that most are perfectly willing to do, you just have to ask.

I hadn't thought about buying them from the vet, will have to look into that. I like the Neopar and Neovac vaccines, though, which the vets in our area don't offer (next closest town that does is 6 hrs away...will not be driving that for a vet visit!).
 

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I gave my own vaccines to my rescue/foster dogs (pit bulls). I take my personal dogs to the vet for all of their vaccines. I am an RN and perfectly competent to administer vaccines myself but, I prefer to have a vet administer then just because of the risk of reactions especially in the chihuahuas. Just last week Elli had a reaction to a vaccine and required vet care. Since the vaccine was given by the vet I only had to pay for injections they gave. If it had been an emergency visit because I had given the vaccine it would have costed much much more. I also get a quick check-up with every vaccine visit and this is important to me since sometimes heart defects and things like that aren't heard until a pup is older.

My breeder has all of her pups treated by a vet. She doesn't give vaccines herself and I get a vet release instead of a shot record. I am more than happy to pay the extra for the pup when I know she has been checked by a vet multiple times since her birth.

I hope to show and breed one day and despite my training in injections I still see myself having my pups vaccinated by the vet. I would just consider it a cost of breeding.
 
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