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If any of you girls have any ideas, please throw them my way, I'll try anything.

3 x <> 8 mo babies. All fulyl wormed, home-made raw & Ziwipeak fed, plus the usual oils, occasional egg, sardines and bones - all are beautifully healthy, stunning glossy coats that everyone comments on.

2 have sweet baby breath, but the tiny, OMG, he smells like some deep sea creature crawled into his mouth and died a month ago, I kid you not. I've had multiple dogs all my adult life and I've never smelt anything like this in 40+ years.

He's 6' away from me, opens his mouth to yawn or play fight with the others and I nearly pass out. Now that's ME nearly passing out, a heavy 2 pack a day smoker of nearly 40 years (no longer, yaaaay) so my sense of smell is close to nil - imagine what a non-smoker would smell.

Seriously, it's so bad I virtually can't have him anywhere near me right now, or I'll puke. It's absolutely got to be coming from his iddy, biddy belly.

It smells exactly like their poos do when they have very loose stools if I've overdone the liver/kidney jerky a bit, which is absolutely putrid, and it smells like it's right under my nose even though he's miles away.

Therefore, at first, I thought he must be eating poo, but am pretty convinced he's not because I run around making note of each new one that appears and re-check every hour to ensure that they're all still exactly as they were last time and they're all untouched. I'm leaving poops laying around (on pee pads & outside) to reinforce to the pups that they're to use the open door to go outside onto the deck rather than use pads inside. Besides, even if he was eating poop, I don't believe it could smell that bad or so darn strong.

This horrific smell is there 24/7, but it wasn't with my girl who was definitely eating poo, hers would be bad for a very short while, but as soon as she ate food or drank it would be back to baby breath.

It's definitely not teeth or plaque problems because they're so young and, besides, surplus baby teeth were removed at neutering 2 weeks ago today.

I'm at my wit's end, this is just gut-wrenchingly gross, there's got to be something simple that can fix this besides packing his mouth with bi-carb soda, but what the heck is it, I'll try anything.
 

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Thanks girls - probiotics & enzymes were organised a few days ago. I take my own home-made by me fruit enyzmes every day, and boy to they work a treat in so many different ways, not the least of which is keeping things moving internally and digesting food properly. I'm thinking I may syringe just 1ml into his mouth.

I was NOT going to get their 3rd and final shots done, BUT, after reading of Pam's tragic loss to parvo last week despite the pup having had x 2 shots, I've decided I will get them done, so I'll make appt for that ASAP and get the Vet (she's holistic) to hit this bad breath boy with every thing she's got.

Coincidentally, they're actually Orthadontic Specialist Vets, so I'm not going to risk trying to prize his tiny jaw open and try to see what I haven't got a clue about, will leave that to those lovely people methinks. I figure if he had an infection he wouldn't be eating well, chewing on bones & eating really hard kibble treats? Well he has been doing all of those things this morning so I'm leaning away from it being mouth related.

MiniGrace, nope, no spitting, or throwing up, or any other of those types of things, just as happy and healthy (and feisty) as all get out. Rotten fish or smelly sea water would be like roses compared to this :)

I'm thinking the human equivalent of haliotosis (Sp?), that wretched, putrid stink and that it's coming from his little gut. How can a dog weighing 2.5lbs stink out an entire room just with his breath, this is science fiction or horror movie stuff it's so hideous lol.

Might also do some research about that benotite clay - I remember reading something about it somewhere and I know some humans take it and I use it an awful lot in my aquariums. When will I ever learn to save links somewhere so I can always come back to them, doh.
 

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Hiya Tracy,

Yes we do have titers, especially this wonderful holistic vet I've found, BUT after what Pam's been through, it just scared me to death.

I know exactly what titers do and that even if the reading showing immunity it really low, it doesn't mean anything except that the dog hasn't been exposed to parvo or distemper in the recent past etc etc.

I'm just completely freaked out that a dog, who'd had x 2 lots of shots, could succumb, and now yet another one in her home now has it, who also presumably had 1, 2 or 3 shots. So, I figured, go for my lot's 3rd (they've always been perfectly normal after their shots, no reactions) and THEN do titers foreverafter, if that makes sense?

Just in case that didn't come out right - get all 3 dogs to have all 3 shots (they've had x 2 lots) and then that's it, no more, no annual boosters ever unless titers says it's needed. I will not be bothering with kennel cough, waste of money imo, just parvo & distemper.

I thank my lucky stars every day that we are Rabies free over here, and all those big beasts, land and air borne, that hunt out and eat Chi's - gawd, I'd be a physical & mental wreck, but sure as heck would get my gun licence back.
 

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Ooh, thanks for those links, I've opened them all in separate windows and will have a read. Sigh, I sure hope there's something that doesn't involve adding something to their food because I'm flat out trying to get them to eat at the best of times and if I dare add any tiny little thing, they're prone to sniff & walk :(

Yes Tracy I know you're right, and it's just me being overly fearful. The fireman analogy is perfect! So, Titers it is *I guess .... good grief I won't have blood drawn myself, how am I gone to cope with them sticking those ruddy needles in my babies :( Good luck with the tiny, his legs are like chicken wingtip bones lol.

* Disclaimer: unless I get more fearful and there's every chance I will due to my excessive, compulsive, paranoia condition :D
 

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Is it possible that you have a poop eater? That would also explain the horrid breath. It seems to be fairly common in Chis.
It's possible because I caught the little bitch doing it a couple of times, but her breath was no-where near as ghastly as his.

I got some "Plaque Off" (Made in USA, Liquid Form though) today from the pet store, it's supposed to help with bad breath and from what I've read, it's super-duper fantastic to erode existing plaque or keep new from forming, even though I don't expect mine to ever get it with the amount of bones they get & being fed raw. I hope this is the same brand as the powdered one everyone swears by and gets stopped by customs when they try to bring it in - bleedin' morons (Customs, not the peeps who want the best for their dogs) - as if it's a bio-hazard, pfft. This breath is a bio-hazard to put it mildly.

Sarah, let's make this our mission in life, to solve this stinky problem .... I really can't cope with it, it stops me from handling him and interacting with him as much as the others and that's just sad.

In the natural websites above, I found a parsley tea recipe that I'm certainly going to try ASAP and will grab some activated charcoal tablets from the chemist too. I loved those websites thanks Huly, they're so great for so many things :)
 
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