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I'm so gutted and so sad to see my baby boy so sad.

He was booked in for his castration yesterday - which he had along with his micro chip and nails clipped. Thought he needed 3 teeth out but he had to have 8 teeth out!!!

The week before he stopped putting any weight on his back right leg. I took him to the vets immediately who prescribed pain killers. He said he might get better in a day or maybe a week. But if he was still limping on day of castration - then he would be x rayed.

So they did - and have said he has hip dysplasia. I cried at the vets because I am so sad for him. And I feel like such a rubbish pet owner. I have tried to look after him soooo well - he is my world. (They both are).

His favourite thing in the world to do is run along the river (on his lead). But I've always been sensible and monitored his exercise so he doesn't have too much - or not enough. Cos he is so energetic for a little thing!

Vet said it would be genetic but I still feel it's my fault. I asked if he'd be able to enjoy running along the river again but they wouldn't answer...They're going to monitor him over next 2 weeks and pain killers every day.

He's only 7 months and he was my loopy, mischevious, naughty, cheeky, lively, crazy boy...

I'm in England and vets said eventually there will be 2 options. Hip replacement that they don't recommend. Or an op where they get in and clean out the ball and socket. I didn't really understand - but this is what they preferred ...


He went through sooooooo much yesterday and he hasn't made any fuss at all. :-( I just hate seeing his eyes so sad - breaks my heart. :-(

Sorry had to share with you all, because I don't think my friends understand. Pets are just 'pets' to them ... But both my boys are so much more than that to me - they're my family.

It's been lovely and sunny here in Southern England for the last couple of weeks and Romeo had loved walking out in the sunshine - had never seen him so happy and he's always happy!!!!! But he was even happier!!!!

And now just a week later - we're here - out of nowhere.

Rach

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I'm so sorry :( I really don't have any experience with hip dysplasia, other than having friends whose pets have the condition. The dogs have gone on to live very full and otherwise normal lives. It has gotten worse as they've aged, sad to say, but it doesn't seem to have affected their spirit any. Neither of my friends opted for any kind of surgery so I can't comment on that.

Would supplements like glucosamine and chondroitin, (I know they're not a cure,) at least slow down the progression?
 

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Thanks Tink, I'm after after all the advice I can find. I've been wondering about supplements too - so thanks for the heads up. I will mention those ones to the vets when we go back next week.

Poor little bubba I know the castration and having 8 teeth out yesterday was massive enough for him ... so I just have to let him rest that out of his system first. That's bound to have left him weak and low. I'm too scared to pick him up and cuddle him at the mo cos I don't wanna hurt him cos he must ache from top to toe! So I'm having to snuggle up with him in his bed instead.

He's a tough little boy - thank you for replying.


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Sorry to hear about your boy.

It would definately be genetic.. Firstly you should contact his breeder.. they should not breed from those parents again..

Secondly i would get a second opinion from an orthopeadic specialist.. i dont know where abouts in the UK you are but there are a few specialists.. Hip Displasia isn't that common in chis.. Mentioning cleaning the socket out made me wonder if he had legg perthes disease? it seems to be increasing in chis and toy breeds... I would definately get a second opinion though. Keep your pups weight down to the minimum end of healthy.. keep him fit.. add glucosamine and chrondroitin to his diet... keep in on a healthy diet and add in some salmon oil which is also good for joints...

Is he insured? the operation is probably going to be about £5,000 plus..
 

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Sorry to hear about your boy.

It would definately be genetic.. Firstly you should contact his breeder.. they should not breed from those parents again..

Secondly i would get a second opinion from an orthopeadic specialist.. i dont know where abouts in the UK you are but there are a few specialists.. Hip Displasia isn't that common in chis.. Mentioning cleaning the socket out made me wonder if he had legg perthes disease? it seems to be increasing in chis and toy breeds... I would definately get a second opinion though. Keep your pups weight down to the minimum end of healthy.. keep him fit.. add glucosamine and chrondroitin to his diet... keep in on a healthy diet and add in some salmon oil which is also good for joints...

Is he insured? the operation is probably going to be about £5,000 plus..
Hi Kurukulla, are you in the UK? I'm in Southern England, so will defo try and find an orthopeadic specialist - Thank you.

I may have got the 'cleaning the socket' thing wrong - I was in a state of shock at the time. :-( But will defo google 'legg perthes'

Yes, I am very glad and relieved I have pet insurance. I know it's gonna be expensive but we're in it for the long haul - he's worth every penny it costs.

Keeping him fit is the bit I also need some help with - how much is too much? He is a small chi - 2.5.

He's KC registered and I thought from a lovely breeder who I checked out. I don't know if it's genetic or my fault. He's been trying to leap on to the sofa recently - copying my bigger chi who can manage it.

And he used to love his walks sooooooooo much. I used to put him in his bag when I felt he'd had enough - but he never wanted to go back in!!!

I'm so concerned I've caused this. :-(

Thank you for all your advice - it is really appreciated.

Rach

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Rach,
The procedure you are describing sounds like luxating patella, (LP). Our Frankie had this surgery when he was 9 months old on his right rear leg. It is a very common condition in chis and Frankies was genetic as well. Recovery is quite lengthy but these little guys are remarkable. There are 4 stages from 1-4, 4 being the worst which is what we had.
Frankie bounced back with no problems at all. When he was x-rayed the vet said that his other leg was already in stage 1 and we tare to watch for signs. It has been nearly 4 years now and he is starting to "hop" on his operated leg holding the "good" one up now. So we may be in for another surgery.
Don't feel like a bad mum, this is nothing you could prevent. Keep us posted.
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I am betting it is legg perthes, also known as Avascular Necrosis of the Femoral Head. You can google it and find lots of information. The vet may have said hip dysplasia as it's something most people are familiar with. But as Kurukulla pointed out, my bet is Legg Perthes. It's quite common in toy dogs under a year old.

I would also suggest a consult with an orthopedic specialist to find out options. Most dogs do well after the surgery. Sometimes it is bilateral, so be aware of that.

And yes, it IS genetic. So tell the breeders so they can modify their breeding program.

You might look into supplements .... fish oil (anti inflammatory), as well as glucosamine, MSM, and hyaluronic acid. Vitamin C and E can be helpful as well.
 

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Yes I'm in the UK.

There's an orthopaedic specialist in Wimbledon.

Unfortunately being KC registered isn't enough breeders only need kc reg dogs without any endorsements to be able to register progeny. If the parents aren't to standard and aren't health tested then you don't really know what you're getting unfortunately :( even some of the kc assured breeders are iffy.

You don't have caused it, bad breeding will have unfortunately. I would get all the info you can then go from there
 

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Rest assured, whether it is hip or knee problems, it is NOT your fault. This little guy can get all the exercise he needs on a leashed walk. Just take a breath, and after he recovers from the neuter, ask for the x-rays and get to an orthopedic vet, so they can make the diagnosis. Sue
 

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You are all lovely, lovely people and have reassured me soooo much. Thank you - it is so nice to be able to 'talk' to people who understand - thank you. :)

The little bean has perked up incredibly during the course of the day. He's been through so much without even considering his hip problem, so I'm very proud of him.

I've been bringing Paco - my big chi into Romeo's pen for a little kiss and cuddle (but no rough play!!!!) and they've been licking each others faces and waggling their tails which is nice to see. :)

Have let Romeo out to stretch his legs for a little while and he was very, very happy! And even wanted to roll his bone across the room and lick his favourite bone.


He's a positive little dude who doesn't make a fuss. We're all gonna take it one day at a time and do what's best for Romeo. Poor little boy has to recover from his castration and 8 teeth out first. What a trooper! So good to see him smiling and teasing Paco again today.

Thank you so much everyone.

Pup's have just had dinner here and Romeo has wolfed his down - so defo no appetite probs.

And Pam, hope little Frankie is doing really, really well.

Rach :)
 

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Hi Rach .... do a lot of research into Ester-C - it's a human vitamin C product but with a vitamin/mineral supplement that makes it much, much more absorb"able"(?) than just normal vit C.

You'll come across lots & lots of USA working dog owners stories whereby their working/hunting dogs etc had completey broken down but were "miraculously fully 100%healed" after a couple of weeks on this product. After some 10 years of all these incredible stories floating around the USA Vet Assoc. finally agreed to do some tests, having debunked it for so many years, and much to their surprise they ended up siding with the users of this product.

As far as I know, it's readily available over the counter in USA pharmacies, health food storess etc.

If you google "Ester-C Dog" or "Esterc Dogs" you'll find a wealth of information. There was a breeder in USA who claimed it healed her Shelties of hip displacia and many, many claims of other muscular/skeletal problems being on x-ray one week and gone within a couple after using this natural but amazing compound.

Oh, edited to add - BEWARE of giving any animal pain meds when the problems relate to their legs. Unfortunatey it can cause them to actually do more harm than good because they stress & use that which they cannot feel much more. i.e. people give lame show horses a drug known as "Bute" - Butadzolidine (Sp?) so they go from being completely lame to 100% perfect for a show (illegal of course) BUT, once the show was over they were so very much worse after all the exertion and using the limb without being able to feel it, a horrible, horrible thing to see. Makes a whole lot of sense when you think about it.
 

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Thanks AussieLass - really appreciate the info on Ester - C. They're both asleep now - so I can spend some time googling all the great advice everyone on here has given me.

Yes totally agree with what you say about the pain meds too. And the vet warned me too that he would think he was invincible when he was on them and to be careful.

Today Romeo has been much much brighter and more cheerful. Think he's slowly getting over the castration and 8 teeth out! He had a snuggle up with Pax today and did his favourite hobby in the world - stealing Pax's bone from him!!!!!! Good to see him back to his naughty, cheeky ways.

He also managed a teeny tiny walk today and we sat by the canal and watched the barges go by. He seemed very happy to be out.

Just taking it one day at a time.

Thanks guys.

Rach

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I'm having a weepy afternoon today guys - I'm such a wimp. :-(

Took them both out for a walk today and let Romeo have a little ten minute (maybe longer) walk along the river. It's a beautiful sunny day in England today and I don't have a garden - so wanted to get them both out.

We were out about an hour, and lay in the sunshine in a field for a while. Romeo seems so happy to be out and wants to run - but i didn't let him. I just don't know how much is too much exercise for him right now?

And I hate that he can't play with Paco - I'm letting them have a little supervised play - just snuggling and Romeo stealing Paco's nylabones. But I'm not letting it get frantic.

Will phone the vets tomorrow.

I just hate stopping him from playing and having fun ... especially as he still wants to ... And he's still running around the room being cheeky but I hate to see him holding his leg up and not using it - even when having a pee or poop. My heart breaks for him.

He doesn't seem the slightest bit concerned!!!!!


Just -re-read my notes from the vet's phonecall last week.

I'd written down femeral head and neck incission ... remove the mis-shapen part of the ball to remove the source of pain...


Thanks for letting me rant and weep guys. i'm usually really strong. i'm just having a little cry now because they're both asleep.

Rach

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