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Ok so i have a bit of a problem, Apollo at times gets ultra horny/humpy but only with me (male), it usually happens at night around 10-10:30 he'll start by licking/biting my hand then hell latch on and try to dry hump me silly.

I always put a stop to it rite away but one night i came home very drunk and crashed out on the couch only to wake up to him humping my arm again, when i tried to stop him he got super aggressive and basically started attacking/trying to rape me (arm)

I try and socialise him with my wifes chi as much as possible (we have a small flat and its to much to have 2 dogs in such a small place, wifes chi stays at her parents house) and he tries tog et his bang on but is usually unsuccesfull.

Any experianced chi owners guide me as to what to do? he gets bored of toys easily and the cat is ready to kill him. I uploaded a vid to you tube of him humping my mates arm just to give you an idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L30HBREI0Og
 

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We were told to avoid this to neuter as early as possible, 6 months is my vets youngest, and it's help deter some of it.

It doesn't work if you intend to breed, sorry I can't be more help.
 

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This is not sexual, it is dominance. Your Chi is trying to dominate you and when you object, he gets mad.

I suggest 2 things... get him neutered as soon as possible which will help with the hormonal component. Start training and enforce your role as pack leader.
 

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Dominate? Wow didnt think of it like that. If im the one that feeds, walks, baths & play with him why would he try do this for? i thought i had already enforced myself as pack leader as his pretty well trained and listens to me 9/10 times whenever i tell him to sit, or stay or to go outside/whatever.
 

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Here's a really good article that explains his behavior .... as explained in the article, this is a behavior problem that has nothing to do with sex.

Dog Mounting and Dog Dominance Behavior - Whole Dog Journal Article

From the article -

Dog-human mounting

This embarrassing behavior is handled much the same way as dog-dog mounting. One difference is that you must educate your guests as to how they should respond if your dog attempts his inappropriate behavior.

Another difference is that some dogs will become aggressive if you physically try to remove them from a human leg or other body part. It works best to set up initial training sessions with friends who agree to be human mounting posts for training purposes, rather than relying on “real” guests to respond promptly and appropriately, at least until your dog starts to get the idea.

For your average, run-of-the-mill human mounting, ask your guests to stand up and walk away if your dog attempts to get too cozy. Explain that it is not sexual behavior, but rather attention-seeking, and anything they try to do to talk him out of it will only reinforce the behavior and make it worse. You can also use a light line here, to help extricate your friends from your dog’s embrace, and to give him that oh-so-useful “Time out!” If the behavior is too disruptive, you can tether the dog in the room where you are socializing, so he still gets to be part of the social experience without repeatedly mugging your guests.

If your dog becomes aggressive when thwarted, he should be shut safely away in his crate when company comes. Social hour is not an appropriate time to work on aggressive behavior – it puts your guests at risk, and prevents all of you from being able to relax and enjoy the occasion.

If your dog becomes growly, snappy, or otherwise dangerous when you try to remove him from a human, you are dealing with serious challenge and control behavior. You would be wise to work with a good behavior consultant who can help you stay safe while you modify this behavior. The program remains essentially the same – using time outs to take away the fun every time the behavior happens – but may also involve the use of muzzles, and perhaps pharmaceutical intervention with your veterinarian’s assistance, if necessary.
 

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Humping is a natural expression in dogs annoying as it is, there are many reasons as to why dogs hump.
Dogs can hump when they get over stimulated (overly excited about something --> my spayed female golden retriever does this when she's too stimulated/excited....and having a 70# golden retriever hump your leg is NOT a fun experience. In other cases dogs may extend their humping behavior as a way of calming or soothing themselves if they become very excited. This is very similar to a person biting their nails, swinging their legs when they sit down, or even to a child sucking on its thumb.
Dogs hump when stressed
Dogs hump to display dominance
Dogs hump to display affection
Dogs hump to display sexual behaviors
This article talks about the hows & why's of it and how to get him to stop:
The Down & Dirty on Humping: Sex, Status, and Beyond | Dog Star Daily

I know it's not any help but my dad who is a vet says the 2 horniest breeds are Chihuahuas and poodles :)
 

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Oh god, his already at the aggresive/ growly, snappy stage, think im gonna get him de-sexed, as much as i hate to do this i think it might be to far along.

Just called the vet and he said it was $220 to get him de-sexed and an extra $45 to get him microchiped. sigh, thoughts on this anyone?
 

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Oh god, his already at the aggresive/ growly, snappy stage, think im gonna get him de-sexed, as much as i hate to do this i think it might be to far along.

Just called the vet and he said it was $220 to get him de-sexed and an extra $45 to get him microchiped. sigh, thoughts on this anyone?
You could call around to see if you can find it cheaper. Not sure what the going rate is in your location. Brody's was a similar price, and he had the pre-anesthesia bloodwork, the microchip and also had baby teeth extracted at the same time. (Make sure you have any retained baby teeth pulled during the neuter).
 

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That seems insanely high without bloodwork and such.

I got my girl spayed for $90 and I believe it's $80 for neuter and I have a very reputable veterinarian, it's comparable pricing all over in this area. I guess it just depends on the location.
 

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You could call around to see if you can find it cheaper. Not sure what the going rate is in your location. Brody's was a similar price, and he had the pre-anesthesia bloodwork, the microchip and also had baby teeth extracted at the same time. (Make sure you have any retained baby teeth pulled during the neuter).
Tbh its not really the cost thats putting me off its just more the "humanity" aspect of it all. im not really a fan of neutering as my line of thought is "the dog didnt make this choice himself" plus being a guy its a little harder for me to agree to cause i get a shiver up ym spine each time i think about it.

Other problem is his pretty down pact with his initial training i gave him but im finding it very difficult to teach him new things/commands and i fear that if i try implement the no hump training its gonna take a long time becuase his kinda set in his ways now.

Didnt really know about the baby teeth thing, will keep an eye on them, i think he may have lost a few already but ill have to double check tonight.
 

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That seems insanely high without bloodwork and such.

I got my girl spayed for $90 and I believe it's $80 for neuter and I have a very reputable veterinarian, it's comparable pricing all over in this area. I guess it just depends on the location.
Im in Sydney, Australia, i think its around average tbh but then again we pay through the nose for everything in this city.
 

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To be honest I really don't think he'd even realize they were gone. I guess the fear of anesthesia is legitimate, but my bf's dad recently neutered his 11y/o Jack Russel because it was a dominant you-know-what and he didn't even notice, didn't act different or anything.

I don't think he's a lost cause at 7 months, I think you'll be fine.
 

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To be honest I really don't think he'd even realize they were gone. I guess the fear of anesthesia is legitimate, but my bf's dad recently neutered his 11y/o Jack Russel because it was a dominant you-know-what and he didn't even notice, didn't act different or anything.

I don't think he's a lost cause at 7 months, I think you'll be fine.
Spoke with the wifey and it looks like were gonna try powerhouse training for 2 weeks then re-asses. It was funny at first but now its just weird.
 

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Ok so i have a bit of a problem, Apollo at times gets ultra horny/humpy but only with me (male), it usually happens at night around 10-10:30 he'll start by licking/biting my hand then hell latch on and try to dry hump me silly.

I always put a stop to it rite away but one night i came home very drunk and crashed out on the couch only to wake up to him humping my arm again, when i tried to stop him he got super aggressive and basically started attacking/trying to rape me (arm)

I try and socialise him with my wifes chi as much as possible (we have a small flat and its to much to have 2 dogs in such a small place, wifes chi stays at her parents house) and he tries tog et his bang on but is usually unsuccesfull.

Any experianced chi owners guide me as to what to do? he gets bored of toys easily and the cat is ready to kill him. I uploaded a vid to you tube of him humping my mates arm just to give you an idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L30HBREI0Og
Hey Tony!

I don't think it's sexual either.. I think its rooted in dominance.

Here's a really good article that explains his behavior .... as explained in the article, this is a behavior problem that has nothing to do with sex.

Dog Mounting and Dog Dominance Behavior - Whole Dog Journal Article

From the article -

Dog-human mounting

This embarrassing behavior is handled much the same way as dog-dog mounting. One difference is that you must educate your guests as to how they should respond if your dog attempts his inappropriate behavior.

Another difference is that some dogs will become aggressive if you physically try to remove them from a human leg or other body part. It works best to set up initial training sessions with friends who agree to be human mounting posts for training purposes, rather than relying on “real” guests to respond promptly and appropriately, at least until your dog starts to get the idea.

For your average, run-of-the-mill human mounting, ask your guests to stand up and walk away if your dog attempts to get too cozy. Explain that it is not sexual behavior, but rather attention-seeking, and anything they try to do to talk him out of it will only reinforce the behavior and make it worse. You can also use a light line here, to help extricate your friends from your dog’s embrace, and to give him that oh-so-useful “Time out!” If the behavior is too disruptive, you can tether the dog in the room where you are socializing, so he still gets to be part of the social experience without repeatedly mugging your guests.

If your dog becomes aggressive when thwarted, he should be shut safely away in his crate when company comes. Social hour is not an appropriate time to work on aggressive behavior – it puts your guests at risk, and prevents all of you from being able to relax and enjoy the occasion.

If your dog becomes growly, snappy, or otherwise dangerous when you try to remove him from a human, you are dealing with serious challenge and control behavior. You would be wise to work with a good behavior consultant who can help you stay safe while you modify this behavior. The program remains essentially the same – using time outs to take away the fun every time the behavior happens – but may also involve the use of muzzles, and perhaps pharmaceutical intervention with your veterinarian’s assistance, if necessary.
Ahh perfect, you got it! :lol:

That seems insanely high without bloodwork and such.

I got my girl spayed for $90 and I believe it's $80 for neuter and I have a very reputable veterinarian, it's comparable pricing all over in this area. I guess it just depends on the location.
I agree that is very expensive, I had my cat done in July and it was 50.00!!
My oldest male dog is done but he came to me that way, and my 9 mos old Chi is not done, my 7 mos old came to me done.

I'd look around and see if you can find better pricing.
Are you not wanting to neuter because of health reasons? or is it just because you think he will loose his "bravado" if it's the latter think nothing of it, he will be fine :)

Dogs don't notice these things.
If you did research and have decided against it due to health related issues then you are entitled IMO.
 

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Hey Kitty, In my research on neuting i found that it was actually healthier for them to be neutered as it prevents prostate problems down the track as well as a whole range of other things and statistically speaking neuted dogs live longer than non neuted.

Its the first point, am worried he wont be the same dog although everyone says that theyll be fine, might just have to bite the bullet and get errr done.
 

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Its the first point, am worried he wont be the same dog although everyone says that theyll be fine, might just have to bite the bullet and get errr done.
He will be the same dog. Just one that doesn't act obnoxious - mounting your guests and then snarling when told to cut it out.

Neutering will also help prevent marking in the house. Most adult intact dogs will mark, where they lift their leg and spray urine all over your furniture, cabinets, walls, floors in a territorial gesture. Sometimes they mark their toys or their food, or YOUR stuff left on the floor. This is not a house training issue. It is linked to his sexual maturity.

He's at the perfect age to get neutered. I'd get it done, you won't be sorry. It makes them a much more agreeable companion! :)

Oh, and yes - have any baby teeth pulled at the same time. That will save you another anesthesia later on. Retained baby teeth can decay and cause all kinds of problems if left in.
 

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Tony

It's dominance I know it's funny to watch coz it is just funny watching their little bums humping but you will save a lot of lives getting him neutered little dogs can be nightmares they get little dog syndrome (think short man syndrome) if he's snarling and snapping at 7 months you're going to have a horrible dog if you don't stop him!!

Neutering does cut out some cancers and lessons te chance of others unless you are showing or breeding yourdog I think it's cruel to keep it intact if there is a bitch in heat he will try to escape to get to it howl day and night fight other intact males (if it's a big dog u can say by to appollo)

Lots of men are funny about neutering I dunno why theydo not know they have their balls they will not miss them!!

My friends yorkie is being neutered today he's 15 months he growls at everyone (but me coz I won't have it) has escaped 5 times marks everywhere including her pillow and even her and her husband!! I know which I'd prefer!!
 
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