yeah virtual hug's a plenty in here and that is very helpful especially when dealing with tough times all around not just with our chi's. when i first joined and had trouble with bonty you all sent such great well wishes and prayers even though he isn't a chi, and even with my job changes there is never ending support. it's a great place. we have our ups and downs and bickering but all in all it's more good than bad...sjc said:That is what I like about this Forum! It is like one great big "Support Group"