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How do you know when it is time?

Daisy has LP in both of her back legs. Last year, they were grade 2 and 3. As of lately, they have been luxating more often than before. I'm already giving supplements/quality food. Our vet said not to do the surgery until it bothers her. I THINK that time is now. She doesn't hold it up or anything, but she'll walk real stiff-legged, then stop playing and lay down.

I know it takes a decent recovery time (watched MIL's dog recover) and lots of home rehab.

I guess I'm just worried that it won't heal properly and end up bothering her more than it does now. So, how do we know when it's time? She was 2 in Aug.

And of course, Lily just had surgery last month (not for LP).
 

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We had Oakley's surgery done almost 3 weeks ago. We have had a few minor bumps on the road to recovery...about a week post surgery she had extreme pain, was breathing very shallow, panting, etc. It's also been very difficult to keep her appetite up.

The cage rest is BORING for her. She is a "scamper".

I would definitely advise taking her to a specialist. It may cost slightly more but IMO it's well worth it. Get opinions from 2 if you can, as well as a quote. They quoted me between $1200 and $1400 for Oakley's knee and it came out to $1401.28 LOL. She only had 1 leg done, had both been done it would have been a bit over $2000 I think. And we had one of the best specialists in the state do it. Some people have paid much more than what we paid, tbh I didn't care about the cost though I went with the Dr I felt would do the best job.

She has 1 more week of strict cage rest. As far as home therapy -- starting at week 2 we have been doing passive range of motion exercises with the leg. It does still seem tender but she walks on it just fine when she is going out to potty. We haven't done any icing or heating, because it wasn't recommended by the specialist, but some do recommend you do it. I guess it depends on who does the surgery. She was given metacam and buprenex for pain/swelling, and an antibiotic, clavamox, to fend off any infection. All those meds were 2x/day, except the buprenex, which was "as needed for pain" (lol we used it all pretty much in the first 2 days...she was a hurtin' pup).

Oakley's knee was verified due to injury during the surgery...but the doc still deepend her knee groove. Prior to the injury she had no LP. Her injury was very, very painful for her and the 1.5 weeks before the surgery were really hard--she was on pain management and cage rest and we couldn't get the surgery done soon enough IMO to get on the way to being BETTER. But I know it is different when it's a condition they've had for quite some time. The specialist said that it isn't really very painful of a condition for them, that some dogs can live long happy lives with it. But she recommended repair for Oakley's because so much soft tissue was torn/swollen/etc. I guess that's why I would say get Daisy to 1 or 2 specialists for an exam and a quote on what it will cost you.

You live with her day in and day out so you know the degree it's affecting her quality of life. It sounds like you are right and it indeed might be time to get it out of the way. The way I figure it -- after 7 or 8 if this happens to one of my dogs, we will forgo the surgery unless it's really, really bad. But as young as 1 or 2 like Daisy/Oakley, I think it really does affect their quality of life and so I do think surgery is a good option.

Sorry...I kinda rambled there :(
 

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The flowers have their annual check up in the beginning of December so I'm going to talk to my vet about it then. Until then, I'm going to write down details of luxations (when and how long) as best I can.

If my vet thinks it's a good idea, I will take Daisy to see a specialist. My regular vet did my MIL's dog's surgery and it turned out good but he said it was hard for him with her being so small. Daisy is 1/2 her size.

I'm certainly not looking forward to another surgical recuperation so soon after Lily's but I just feel like doing it now will make the recovery/outcome/anesthesia easier on her.

Does the specialist you used have a website? (Just to look at/get info cuz I'm not in CO).
 

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The flowers have their annual check up in the beginning of December so I'm going to talk to my vet about it then. Until then, I'm going to write down details of luxations (when and how long) as best I can.

If my vet thinks it's a good idea, I will take Daisy to see a specialist. My regular vet did my MIL's dog's surgery and it turned out good but he said it was hard for him with her being so small. Daisy is 1/2 her size.

I'm certainly not looking forward to another surgical recuperation so soon after Lily's but I just feel like doing it now will make the recovery/outcome/anesthesia easier on her.

Does the specialist you used have a website? (Just to look at/get info cuz I'm not in CO).


Beth Lewis did it. I talked to several orthos, all who pointed me to her, LOL. They said she was the best as far as a 3.5lber goes so that's what we did. Their website isn't very informative tho IMO lol. But there it is :) to be honest I don't trust regular vet's opinions on the surgery. I think all they see are dollar signs. No matter how trustworthy they are, I just don't trust them when it comes to a big surgery like that. Plus our vet is technically an equine trained vet so that's a lot dif than a small dog vet. :eek: They were great and called to check on her progress and make sure she was healing OK. They are available 24/7 to answer questions too which I liked. It was a 7 hour drive but there just wasn't anyone here I felt comfortable with.
 

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Well...I think it just depends on the dog. Willow is stage 4 in one leg and stag 3 in the other, but would never know it. She never shows any signs of pain and doesn't limp or hold up her legs. My vet told me some dogs do fine with stage 4 while others are a mess with stage 2.
 

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I'm leery of vets too seeing it as a cash cow. Our particular vet though is very honest. Like with Lily's surgery he gave us two options but told us which one he'd choose if it were him and he suggested the less expensive of the two options.

I'm researching specialists now and found two major ones within an hour of us so I need to research both doctors and see about getting a consult.
 

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it's a long recovery and it's hard to see our babies in pain, but it was so worth it with Madi. She is fully recovered and happy now. Hers was stage 3/4 in the left leg. Luckily the right isn't causing any issues as of now. I would definitely recommend doing it in the winter when they can't be outside as much anyway :) We did madi's in march, and then spring came and the poor thing couldn't play outside!
 
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