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This is the one and only "problem" we see with Lily, which is good considering she's been through alot. When we leave she barks, whines, yaps, cries and drools. She doesn't stop. We live in an apartment so we are in touch with the neighbours and thankfully they understand.

I have tried everything I can find on the internet in regards to training. We have a kong that she loves and some bones/toys she only gets when we leave. When we come in we ignore her until she settles down. Nothing is working and I don't even see any improvements to show something is working.

We have tried and are still using Tromos which I was told is the same as Rescue Remedy and it doesn't help at all. I have tried gravol but I did such a low dose it did nothing either. I am still toying with the idea of giving her the dose of gravol that is recomended or even benadryl in hopes it will make her sleep while we are away.

We have talked to the vet and he suggested all the training we have already been doing. He said he has medication we can give her but I'm hoping for something that isn't from a vet. We go out maybe once or twice a week to do groceries and bring her everywhere else. I just need something a couple times a week, not something I have to give her daily or that will change her personality.

I am lost. I have read/seached myself raw for solutions. It's looking like we might have to get a babysitter for her but again, it's me she's attached to so I think she might do the same things (not as extreme) while someone is watching her.
 

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Have you tried leaving her,1 min then come back into the room extend that every time 2 min -3 min so she gets the idea that you will be back,giving her a treat every time she doesn't bark/ whine ?
 

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Have you tried playing music for her while you're gone?

If that doesn't work, maybe you can make a recording of you're voice singing her a song & talking to her. That might comfort her enough til you're home.
 

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I have been doing the leaving and coming back for a few weeks and we can't seem to get past a min or two. Its geting frustrating.

We also leave either the TV on or the stereo.
 

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We had a "makeshift" crate but she was escaping. We will be buying a real one that she can't get out of. I'm so afraid she will have a heart attack or something. I don't like that but I need to keep her in our room so the barking is not as loud for all the neighbours. We lock her in our room but she is destroying the door, trying to dig her way out.

She does bark if I leave the room and she can't get to me. I have been trying to "unattach" her to me. I don't let her sit/lay with/on me all the time, and when she does it's because I have invited her. I don't let her decide when she gets to be with me (its so hard tho! *grumbles stoopid tough love*)

I also alternate days leaving her home and taking her with me when I get the kids from school, which takes me about 10-15 mins, im hopes that would help her realize I'm always coming back. I see no improvments, which makes me just want to take her with me so she isn't stressing herself out.
 

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Have you tried running her around right before you go out to wear her out? Does she only bark when you close her in the room? Have you tried leaving her run the house, stepping outside like you're leaving & listening to what she is doing? I don't believe trying to get her "unattached" to you will work as these Chi's are well-known for attaching themselves to their owner. Sounds like she needs a lot of love, cuddling & attention for all she's been through. I totally understand your frustration & wanting to take her every where so she won't stress out, but that's not practical because there are times when we can't take our little Chis. If she gets used to you taking her every where then you're really going to have a problem when you have to leave her home.
I don't crate my Chi. She has full run of the house, but she follows me right to the door & sometimes tries to run out with me. She doesn't bark until she hears me pull in sometimes & is back at the door when I come home.
You're chi sounds confused, & it's going to take some time for her to feel comfortable enough to know mommy always comes home. You can make a recording of your voice & put it on & act like you're leaving & see what she does.
 

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my dog has a little she used to whine when we would leave for the work in the morning but now she only whimpers if we are home n then go back out for the evening she knows we are leaving and will start to cry. When we first got her id leave her a bone, kong tv on something for her to do now shes starting to grow out of it. Try leaving her home for longer periods of time so she gets used to it and don try to take her everywhere you go .
 

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We have taken her to the dog park right before leaving. She ran her lil legs off til she couldnt run anymore. I thought that would have pooped her out, nope, had no effect on her at all.

We were giving her the whole house at first because she isn't destructive (unless she is locked in a room, then she digs at the back of the door) but then the barking is really loud and echoey for the nieghbours. So I am needing to crate her to keep her in the our bedroom so the barking isnt as loud and she isnt wrecking the door. Idealy I don't want to crate her, I'd like her to be able to just play or go have a nap where she chooses. I am also worried crating her will make her destructive for "revenge".

I left today for an hour and half (after I took her for an hour walk). I just talked to the neighbour and she said she barked the entire time I was gone.
 

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Oh dear ,the only other thing i can think of is DAP plug in or spray that calms dogs down,you seem to be doing everything possible.
 

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Oh dear ,the only other thing i can think of is DAP plug in or spray that calms dogs down,you seem to be doing everything possible.
I have looked for that around here and I am having no luck finding it. I am thinking if the rescue remedy has no effect of her, that won't either.

I have wondered about a product at Petsmart called BarkOff, also a Seen On TV product. I'm not sure if it would work or not. The barking is my only problem and if I can keep her from barking (at least in the livingroom), it might give her the time she needs to settle in more.

I just called the Vet. He gave me the proper doses for Benadryl and Gravol. If they don't work (not together) that he can prescribe something to sedated her so she can relax and sleep while we do groceries. I am hoping Benadryl or Gravol works and she eventually will not need it anymore. He also suggested a citronella collar but said some dogs are too smart for it. They realize if they get the barks out real fast, it stops (emptys the can). That's what happened with his dog. Plus, those collars are expencive.

I realize because she is a rescue she needs time. But I can't take her to grocery stores and I feel bad she is so upset being alone.
 

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Maybe Amazon will have it,it's a phememone(not sure how to spell it ) that is released into the brain,that they would have smelt when they were with their mothers,big article in a dog mag i was reading,and a vet suggested it for Firework night that we have here,i got the cat one for when we take her to the cattery,she's usually sick in the car but with the spray no sickness
 

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I know I am new here, so you can take my post as is.. but I am very well versed in dog behavior and have worked with and helped MANY people in your situation..

You said you were trying to leave and come back for a couple of weeks but I have a feeling you might not have been doing it right.

You first have to figure out what really sets her off. Does she start when you pick up your keys? Put your shoes on? or when you actually leave?

Also, you might not have seen a difference when you let her run like mad, but I can tell you 100% for sure it will make a difference. ALWAYS do any type of behavioral training when your dog has already had a nice long exercise period. All that pent up energy of not having exercised always translates into anxiety

Do you only crate her when you leave? Or when you sleep? Does she ever go into the crate on her own to sleep / rest?

If you ONLY use the crate when you leave stop.. It just turns into a dungeon. The correct way to use a crate is to make it their comfort spot and it will eventually be a place a dog goes when they want some peace and quiet and/or want to hide.

So if you don't want to commit to the crate, don't use it at all in the house. Instead, lets just get her to a place where she doesn't bark while you are gone.

You probably should let your neighbors know that you are doing this. If you have an open dialogue about your dog this shouldn't be too hard. Just tell them that it will be worse before it gets better but it will be a long term solution.

If you are ok with all of these things, and you answer some of my questions, I can give you the next step in kicking this bad habit in the butt and making your dog content alone.

One last question - can you please describe your "out of the house" schedule? how often is the dog alone? at what times?
 

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Well, I called Petsmart and there is a 60 day return policy for Barkoff. I am going to go get one tonight since I have nothing to lose. *Crossing my fingers*
 

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Poor sweet puppy girl. I think she will eventually learn that you are not going to abandon her and will always come home. I know you are anxious yourself because you don't want to bother the neighbors. Maybe the tv in your room turned up just a bit will muffle some of her barking. You might try warming a towel in the microwave or dryer and placing it with her when you get ready to leave. I use a rice filled bag that I micro for Draco and he is always soothed by it. Good Luck!!!! With love and time you will lick this obstacle.
 

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Last night the people from the rescue called me. Lily stayed at their house for 3 months before us adopting her. She said Lily was dropped off with a friend or sister. The people just left them in their cage in the parking lot and said she didn't want the girls anymore. She told me those two were ALWAYS together and did everything together. She did have a crate for them and the girls loved being in it. She said a crate may help if not, they are coming back down next month with more dogs. We can bring Lily and visit the other dogs and if we and Lily find someone we can adopt another. They won't charge us because we have given Lily such a good home and would love to see Lily have a friend again. While we appreciate that offer, we aren't jumping on it. It may fix her anxiety of being alone or could make things worse. We will see what happens when the time comes.

We got a proper crate last night. I have set it up in the livingroom and put some blankets in it. I will make a cover for it as well. I gave her a treat to go in and she ate it in there. About 20 mins later she went in alone and had a nap. I will feed her in there and give her a treat when she goes in once in awhile. Once she is napping regularly and more comfortable in there I will shut the door for a few mins at a time while I am here where she can see me. Once she is comfortable with that, I will leave the room while the door is shut, then try going out the door.. Just take baby steps, I'm thinking it may take a couple months unless that's the "thing" that she has missed (as the rescue telling me she loved it although she did have a friend with her). She will continue to sleep with us at night but we will leave the crate open so she can go in when she wants ( and has a couple times now to have a small nap).

I am in touch with the neighbours and they don't mind. They all just say "she's a dog, they bark and you aren't gone much". I don't really have a schedual. We go out grocery shopping once or twice a week for an hour or two. Anywhere else we go, we take her or leave her in the car now that it's cooler out. Someone mentioned that could make the situation worse so I want to leave her home more when we go out, unless it's to visit or to the petstore.

I'm not sure what sets her off. When we leave we give her her filled kong and another couple things she only gets when we leave. She seems fine and starts working on the kong right away. She doesn't seem bother by us leave cuz she is "busy". We now don't hear her barking when we leave, so she's quiet until we get to the elevator at least. ANd when we come home she doesn't bark until we get close to the door. The neighbours tell me she is barking the whole time still. If I leave her for just a few mins and don't give her the kong, she barks a few seconds after I shut the door and is barking when I get off the elevator so i'm guessing she barks the whole time.

We are also working on the "wait" command and a few others.


My long term goal is to have her crate the place she loves to be and have her just go in there by herself when we leave either with the door shut or left open, without the barking and getting upset.

I hope I answered everything you asked for. Thanks for the help everyone!
 

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Babi.Greenwood - Wow, you seem like you have definitely done your research, and good for you for making the commitment to getting this problem fixed. You're also super lucky with regards to your neighbors.

So adding a dog could possibly help, but you are correct to be a little wary about just throwing one in the mix. Companionship is what dogs need, most of the time human companionship is enough, but I have found that a scared chihuahua will rely a lot on a strong and well balanced dog for their own support.

My chihuahua bug (who we've had for 3 months now) was terrified when we got him. We are pretty sure he was both neglected and mistreated. We have a super calm, mild mannered beagle who Bug sticks to like glue. When he's nervous he stands as close to Cappy as he can (sometimes on top of him!)

Would you consider getting a breed different from another chihuahua? You'd be surprised what type of dog they will adhere to.

Just keep your options open. If all of the chihuahuas that they have seem to be high strung or might be counter productive, consider looking at other dogs and just see how your little guy does.

As scared and freaked out as Bug was of every noise and movement any human makes, he could be confronted with one of the largest Dobermans and just hang out without even getting tense. The presence of other dogs makes him happy. If we take Cappy somewhere without Bug, bug gets really depressed, shaky, and just sleeps with his tail between his legs
 

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When they come down with the dogs we will go "visit". Lily was just standing in her cage not making a sound or moving around when we first saw her. She didn't look terrified though, pretty calm and observant. We aren't worried about the breed, mainly just the personality. We don't want anything bigger than Lily though because we live in an apartment. If there is a dog there for us, she will pick us out. :) Lily is such an easy dog that I'm afraid to "jinx" it with another and have an even bigger "problem". I really am hoping Lily comes around.
 

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Well done you ! you are doing your best it's so nice to read about somebody doing all they can for their Chi,i hope she settles down or maybe finds a little friend.
 

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I 'trick' Fiddle when I leave to go to work. I feed her right at the last minute and she doesn't even notice I go. I also use dog "puzzles" so it takes her a little longer to eat.

When she was a puppy we did the "alone time" training to. Where started out leaving her alone in her pen for e little on her own, it then went to a room alone and the time gradually increased.

She still complains if she does see me go, but only at my house, where she is left in her pen, at my partners where she is left in a room, she doesnt cry at all.


Hope this helps?
 
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