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Ok Im having a problem, my baby Kooze is 6 months old, when he does bad like pee on the carpet or do something he shouldnt we spank him, and he knows he has done wrong when we go to do it. For some reason he still keeps doing the same wrong things over and over, seems like he just wont learn, and he isnt grasping the lay down sit concept, can someone tell me how they trained there dog to listen, and not pee on the carpet, and to maybe go to the door when needing to go outside.
 

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Hi Kooze,

I know that everybody has different ways of reprimanding, but I would personally never spank a chi, they are just too small and prone to injury, it also really upsets them and can make digestion really difficult :(

I would say that your little ones hormones are kicking in. It happened to my boy at exactly six months too, they feel the need to mark everywhere and everything, and their sense of smell is so good that if you do not get rid of the last wee 100 percent they go on to do it.

In my case, neutering cured my boy completely. they are not doing it to piss you off, they are doing it as it is in their make up to mark their territory. After my pups op, he NEVER done it again, and I am guessing this is the problem with your boy too.

If you are going to breed and cannot face neutering, you are going to have to go back to basics as if he was tiny again. Praise alot when he does it in the correct place and when he doesnt a very firm NO and then maybe isolate him from you for sometime so that he knows he is in the wrong. This hurts much more than spanking to them as they know that you are unhappy with them.

good luck, I am sure you will get loads more advice shortly.
 

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Persistance, Persistance, Persistance! I cannot stress this enough...just when you think they got it down, they have a setback, but if you keep on with it they will learn...Also if your boy is not neutered that could be the problem...remember they are males, and in the wild males mark their territory...kind of like this..."this is mine, and this is mine, oh, and that's mine too"...that's how they think...

If he is neutered than keep showing him outside is where he needs to go...keep him on a leash and take him to the same spot every day....my baby Gizmo had an accident yesterday after not having one for weeks, I told him NO! and took him outside...you can also reprimand the stain...sounds weird but it worked for me in the beginning of training...I would tell the spot where he went...bad stain...and blot it with a napkin...and take the napkin outside and let Gizmo sniff it outside...then I would say...outside Gizmo...

Spanking does not work, you can actually teach your dog to be very afraid of you...trust me, verbal reprimands work better...don't yell loudly either...just a firm NO!! Animals sense your tone of voice and see you tense up, they know they are doing bad...then take him outside...after that go about your business...With just one look of my eyes Gizmo knows he got mummy upset...I say a low but firm No...and he is running...LOL

It's like a broken record...but if you keep at it, you'll reap the rewards of your hard effort... :D
 

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Thank so much because honestly I dont ever want to raise my hand to my little baby he is just to small, and then the look on his face just tears me up so Ill try the firm no and the isolation and see how that goes.
 

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Thank so much because honestly I dont ever want to raise my hand to my little baby he is just to small, and then the look on his face just tears me up so Ill try the firm no and the isolation and see how that goes.
Don't isolate him for too long they forget why they are there in the first place...LOL...about a minute is fine... :wave:

Good luck!
 

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Hitting an animal is the worst way to train it :( you are having the dog fear you not love you . you will break a bond you are trying to nurture between you and your chi. May I ask why you want to sud him or breed him? You must go back to basic training with him locking him away will not solve the problem. it takes time and patience and much consistancy. Have you set its boundaries in the household when you trained him. You just dont bring a pup home and say ok your here. you must set bounderies for it until it is trained to do what it should. Crate training is the best method. That does not mean to leave it in crate every time it does wrong it should not fear the crate. the crate is just a place its housed during parts of the day to train it. And I dont want to burst your bubble and i am not being sarcastic just because you have him neutered does not mean he will definatley stop marking. invest in belly bands they are inexpensive and will deter him from marking. Do Not leav it on him 24/7 any dog as a child needs routine and structure. you wake up let it do its bz feed and do the same then put band on while the dog is inside belly band stays on when out remove when in bed at night remove. I neve thought i would get Sturgis to stop. Those belly bands were a blessing
 

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I want to stud him, well actually we might buy a female but I just think he would have great looking pups.
 

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Do you have pictures of your pup? how would you know if he is breedable? Have you not read my previous posts about breeding? what registry is your dog with?
 

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Janie there is some pics of him in the pics section:

http://chihuahua-people.com/viewtopic.php?t=9925

Although he is cute and lovely in every way in no way is he of enough quality to breed - I do not mean this in a nasty way what so evr he is darling and my own boy would not be good enough to breed either - breeding should only be done to better the breed and with dogs who have great tempremnets and are tru too standard unfortunatly from these pics your boy is not exactly to standard as mine arent or alot of peoples on here either - it would be better for you and him to have him neutered as it reduces the risk of certain cancer in males to 0% :wave:
 

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I concur...breeding should be left to the experts...

My pups father mated with a not so good female by accident and I got my Gizmo...

He has faults...like his legs are a little bowed, among other things..he is not suitable to breed because his litter can carry that gene...someone on here said before if people keep breeding like that the chihuahuas as we know them today will no longer be in existance! :shock:

People will do whatever though...just to say these are my cute puppies...sigh' :dontknow:
 

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Niether yours are mine and many others here have Chihuahuas that we would consider breeding because the breeding of them would not better the breed. Their faults would just be passed down to their litters. The problem you and I have since Sturgis and yours look so much alike is their muzzle is too long Sturgis' feet dont point straight if he is standing straight. Breeding has nothing to do with beeing an ugly animal it has to do with the faults and genetic factors in your pet. bone structure, bite, gait, features.etc. If you really want to breed I recommend alot of reading to familiarise your self with the standards of the breed. Breeding is not for beginners and should you have other dogs that had litters ALL breeds are different and have their own complications
 

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Niether yours are mine and many others here have Chihuahuas that we would consider breeding because the breeding of them would not better the breed. Their faults would just be passed down to their litters. The problem you and I have since Sturgis and yours look so much alike is their muzzle is too long Sturgis' feet dont point straight if he is standing straight. Breeding has nothing to do with beeing an ugly animal it has to do with the faults and genetic factors in your pet. bone structure, bite, gait, features.etc. If you really want to breed I recommend alot of reading to familiarise your self with the standards of the breed. Breeding is not for beginners and should you have other dogs that had litters ALL breeds are different and have their own complications
can i ask why you bred lady then if you admit that they aren't up to par so to speak?
 

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O HONEY YOUR GETTING IT FROM ALL SIDES ARENT YOU :cry: EVERYONE DISIPLINES THERE DOGS DIFFRENTLY. I PERSONALLY DOUBT WHEN YOU SPANK YOU LITTERALLY MEAN S.P.A.N.K.I.N.G. YES IT IS NOT THE BEST WAY TO TRAIN YOUR DOG BUT MANY PEOPLE DO IT. THERE IS A LADY ON THIS SITE THAT USES A EMPTY ENVELOPE TO DISIPLINES HER DOG , SOME PEOPLE USE NEWSPAPER ROLLED UP, OUTHERS USE WATER IN A SPRAY BOTTLE ALL FORMS OF DISIPLINE COULD EVOKE FEAR!!! ESPECIALLY IF YOU DOG IS SKIDISH ANYWAYS.
TAKE YOUR CHI OUT SEVERAL TIMES A DAY SO HE CAN MARK OUTSIDE, WHEN YOU CATCH HIM MARKING IN YOUR HOME SAY NO SO HE UNDERSTANDS IT!! PICK HIM UP AND QUICKLY CARRY HIM OUTSIDE. :wink: DO THIS OVER AND OVER ( your gonna feel like you do it a million times) PERSISTENCE PAYS OFF!! PORSHA IS THE FIRST FEMALE DOG I HAVE EVER HAD SHE IS SO EASY BUT I HAVE HAD 6 MALES AND THEY ALL TRAINED DIFFRENTLY SO WHAT WORKS FOR ONE MAY NOT WORK FOR ANOUTHER. :D BUT CONSISTENCY ALWAYS WORKS. :) GOOD LUCK
THIS MAY TICK SOME FOLKS OFF HERE BUT I HAVE TO SAY THIS. I CAN UNDERSTAND TO A DEGREE WHY BREEDING NEEDS TO BE LEFT TO THE EXPERTS BUT SHOW QUALITY DOGS COST AVER $500.00 ON AVERAGE AND MANY FOLKS JUST WANT A PET TO LOVE SOME OF US DONT CARE IF OUR CHIS NOSE IS NOT PERFECT OR LEGS ARENT RIGHT. I PERSONALLY FEEL PORSHA IS PERFECT. I FEEL LIKE IF ANY OF US HAS A CHI THAT DOESNT FIT THE PERFECT CHI CRITERIA THEN IT IS ALL OUR FAULTS IF OUR BABYS ARE LESS THAN PERFECT. WE CHOSE TO BUY FROM THE BREEDER SELLING THEM. WHY QUESTION SOMEONES INTENTION TO BREED THERE CHI IF THERE CHI DOESNT MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMNTS TO BETTER THE BREED. UNLESS YOU SHOW YOUR DOG AND MAKE LOTS OF MONEY OFF THEM IT DOESNT MATTER. SOME FOLKS ACT LIKE ITS A CARDINAL SIN IF YOU DONT FOLLOW THE BOOK . i JUST DONT GET IT. DONT WE ALL FIRST JUST WANT A PET TO LOVE? NOTHING IN LIFE IS PERFECT. MOST OF THE CHIS ON THIS FORUM DONT FIT THE PERFECT CHI REQUIREMENTS. WHO DESIDED WHAT WAS PERFECT ANYWAY? :roll: ALSO ALOT OF US COULD CARE LESS IF OUR DOG IS REGISTERED ITS JUST A PIECE OF PAPER WERE TALKING ABOUT DOGS HERE.
 

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luv4mygirls said:
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can i ask why you bred lady then if you admit that they aren't up to par so to speak?
Sure, I didnt know any better at the time :oops: Now, I do It was a very bad mistake on my part. And a expensive lesson learned. Now I am doing alot of research I have joined a club, read books on the genetics and structures. I am educating myself to do things the correct way now. Ie: joining a club showing, handling classes and fixed my boys. :wink:
 

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Porshas Mom can I ask why you typed the whole of that in caps ?

I would just like to add if people continue to breed pet quality dogs then the standard of the chi as we know it will dissapear over time and they will no lon ger look like the chi as we know it and why we decided to pick it in the first place.

I also totally disagree with how you say water spray bottles are no good in training and can instill fear they are used to do the opposite as the dog will not associate the spray with you as they would with you hitting them with your hand or rolled up newspaper etc :wave:
 

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Porshas mom, The problem is you are looking at health issues from these dogs. you can buy a pet quality dog from someone who shows and not worry about the health They may have many faults for showing but the health is rarely a factor. So why pay for a pet quality dog that will have health issues than a dog that has faults instead. Yes, they are all beautiful faults health issues or not. chryptorchids, heart, Luxating Patellas, thyroid, . how many of you in this forum have had to lay out thousands of dollars for medical proceedures and testing. i have also had to do the same I have no regrets, but again now that I know better I will not get my dog from a BYB or pet store. There are some people that do breed and may not show but they are extremely scarce but they are breeding to the standards and there are no health issues in the lines.

It has nothing to do with papers it has to do with the health issues that gets passed on from one generation to the next. Vet costs are extremely high
 

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i almost always type in caps and never relized so many people took offense to it. I appologize if i offended anyone. Im just typing i happen to like all caps. its funny i wouldnt have ever took a second thought to some one typing in caps.
As for health issues most pure breed dogs incure more health risks than dogs that are not pure breeds. The whole reason i posted my opinion is because sometimes on this forum people can be so rude and jugemental.
the original post was about disipline and it turned into wether or not her dog was good enough to stud, and if he was registered. Will no one stand up for her? and then people were questioning anouther member about why if she new better did she breed her dog named lady. I was trying to point out that most of us could care less about what is considered breedable, we just want a pet. There are millions of people who have pets in there home and are not considered breeders they just mate there pet and sell the pups. Thats how i got Porsha. I bet that is how most folks on this site got there dogs to. these folks seldon care about genetic traits.
Some are registed and some are not. also buying a registered dog doesnt mean you get a healthier dog.
But mostly i was just tring to take the side with the ladies that were getting questioned for there choices.
 

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Yeah and the original poster turned it into another subject as they asked about breeding - we didnt just get it out of thin air, just because a dog is not too standard does not mean its not pure bred - :?
 
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