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For a few days now Jake has been sick, it was not a huge amount but then today after eating his chicken which he didn't gorge down he brought the whole lot up.

In himself he seems fine but I am worried about him keep being sick, I am thinking maybe the raw diet isn't suited to him after all.

I am going to watch him over the next few days and if he is sick again I am taking him to the vets.

Do you think it could be the raw diet just not agreeing with him after all.
 

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Dogs on raw hork up food for a number of reasons.

Ate too fast, food too cold, ate too much, etc etc.

Betty will hork her food up (chicken w/skin on) repeatedly ... then EAT IT AGAIN.

LOL Gross! But she seems to enjoy it more the second time round. ;)

Deme, I think maybe the raw diet isn't for YOU.. Jake seems to be doing fabulous on it. You, on the other hand can't seem to calm down long enough to take it as it comes. I get that, I have anxiety disorders.

Do you think maybe you should get him on a high quality canned food with some raw bones twice a week to help clean his teeth? Would that be something that is more comfortable for you?
 

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I spoke to my vet about raw and he said its good for 70% of dogs so you don't know. I agree with the above post about you worrying however i think thats normal if you don't completely trust it. If you are worried about him being sick it doesn't do any harm to call your vet. X
 

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It may infact DO harm by calling your vet. I know my ex vet screamed at me when he found out I did raw, told me I was killing Betty, etc etc. I cried all the way home. It actually made me second guess myself for a few minutes.

Vets are NOT schooled in nutrition (for the most part). Unless it is a specialized vet practice, I wouldn't trust a vet about nutrition more than I would go to me GP for nutrition advice (they would refer me to a specialist!).

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Deme, I'm afraid I agree with Muzby. Maybe the raw diet just isn't something that's going to work for you. Will it work for Jake - most definitely YES! But I think that your worrying over him is wearing you down. Dogs throw up sometimes. It's not something that I would call the vet for unless it was a repeated thing with obvious ramifications.

I firmly believe that raw is by far, the BEST diet possible for our little carnivores and I am 100% committed to it. If Brody has a loose stool, or decides he doesn't want to eat for a day, etc. then so be it. I keep a close eye on him and tweak his diet as necessary. If I see his stool is a little loose, I make sure he gets bone in his next meal. If he's had chicken for a couple days, I make sure to throw in some beef heart or a rabbit quarter to increase his red meat. I am careful to make sure that he gets his 10% organ allotment. But I don't obsess over every little bump in the road. And there WILL be bumps in the road... that's true of ANY diet!

Sometimes dogs vomit because they are anticipating eating and have an empty stomach. Sometimes they eat too much. Or too fast. There are lots of reasons for vomiting and I have seen dogs vomit on kibble as well. It's not just a raw problem.

Whatever you decide, I hope you come to terms with a diet that will please you and your stress level/anxiety will decrease. It's no fun to be worried about our babies.
 

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Yesterday Jake did eat to quickly so wasn't surprised or too concerned but today I give him 2oz of chicken (he gets 2oz on a morning and again in the afternnoon) and he didin't eat it quickly in fact I was surprised at how long he did take to eat it. It may have been cold but he has eaten it the same way for weeks now.

I am not so worried about feeding raw as I do want to keep with it, just with him being sick 3 days in a row and 3 times today I get worried.

I did remember something which may be a bigger factor. Two of his toys have plastic bits and he chews on them leaving bits allover the carpet. Yesterday he strained for ages to have a poo and went he did go it wasn't much and it was 80% plastic bits.

I wonder if he has a tummy upset with the plastic and that is why he is being sick.

I am watching to see if he poo's any more bits. I give him some scrambled egg as that will be lighter on his tummy and so far he's been okay. He has also been very very clingy these past few days another thing which makes me think he has a sore tummy.

Otherwise he plays and likes to run around outdoors..

I guess I am an over protective worrying mummy, but ahhh guys he's my fist Chi and my first pet in 9 years...

Deme x
 

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I bet it is a tummy ache from eating plastic!! Poor baby! Hope he is feeling better soon. Hopefully the eggs will help everything to move along.
 

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I had to throw all of Draco's hard plastic toys away...he continually eats them. I let him play with the softer latex but all hard plastics are banished. I hope Jake gets to feeling better soon.
 

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Just reading your latest about him straining to poo (was he successful?) and vomiting and possibly eating plastic. If he still doesn't poo you should take him to the vet for xrays. Its possible he has a blockage from the plastic. If this is the case he may need surgery.
Not trying to scare you but it is somewhat common for Danes to get blockages and it can be a killer if not treated. All of his above symptoms sound like a possible blockage to me.

OR he could also just coincidentally have gotten sick and it could have nothing to do with his toy or his diet, sometimes that happens in dogs just as in people.
 

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Given the amount of toy parts, paper, rotten food, twigs, cat poop, etc they seems to eat its a wonder they aren't sick all the time!!!!
Dogs, eh! Who'd have 'em??:rolleyes:
 

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Yep all toys with plastic bits went straight to the bin as soon as I saw he was eating them..
 

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Sorry Deme....Jake has a way of making you worry like no horse can--doesn't he ?? I hope he is feeling better soon.
 

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Just reading your latest about him straining to poo (was he successful?) and vomiting and possibly eating plastic. If he still doesn't poo you should take him to the vet for xrays. Its possible he has a blockage from the plastic. If this is the case he may need surgery.
Not trying to scare you but it is somewhat common for Danes to get blockages and it can be a killer if not treated. All of his above symptoms sound like a possible blockage to me.

OR he could also just coincidentally have gotten sick and it could have nothing to do with his toy or his diet, sometimes that happens in dogs just as in people.
He did manage to poo with plastic bits which is how I discovered he'd eaten them.. he did a poo today but it was pretty dark.

He ate only about 0.5oz of chicken this morning (if that) and just left the rest. Yesterday aftenoon he did have some scrambled egg and at 5pm he had 1oz of chicken then another 1oz at 6pm which he kept down.

He is quieter than normal and very very clingy.

Yet I know if I got a toy out he'd be happy to play.
 

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Deme, was his poo dark dark? Like black? If so, this indicates bleeding in the stomach/intestines (not caused by raw, but by plastic!).

Try and see if he would play...

It may not be a bad idea at this point (with the plastic knowledge - oh my!) to get him in for an xray/palpitation. Just to be on the safe side. If he does have a blockage, the sooner they get it out the better.

When Betty had a bit of string coming out of her bum the other week, I snipped what I could see, fed her tons of liver and vasaline and waited 24hrs. At that point she pooped the rest out and we were home free.. with plastic bits, if you can't rebuild the toy 100% (and no one wants to go through poopy to find bits of plastic and try to rebuild them) I would take him in if he's feeling "off". He doesn't seem to be eating enough to keep him going, and he's acting weird. To me, that is a 100% positive vet time. :( Goodluck, and let us know how it goes.
 

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I am at the vets today at 2.20pm so will mention this, now I am worried, Jakes insurance doesn't start till the 15th but I don't care.. I can't let him suffer till then...
 

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Let us know what the vet says Deme! I will pray for Jake and that he's OK!
 

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Don't fret youself into a tizzy. Just remember that he's going today, he will be looked over - and if there is a blockage, he'll get fixed. That's that. Watch him until you go, maybe let him rest in his kennel?

When our cat broke his leg, I was a work. It was our busiest day, and I was due home at 2:30 - made a vet appt for 3:15 (earliest they could get us in). He had done it earlier in the day, and laid in a kennel in my apt until we could get him to the vet. He was fine. Sure, it hurt... but it was fixed and done as soon as possible. I could guilt myself until the sun goes down, but what good will that do? If I didn't work, I'd have lost my job. You are taking him as soon as you have an appt. That is the best you can do. :)

There is also the chance that he is just acting off for no reason. :) You're doing preventative medicine. ;) Getting it checked to make sure. And no more rubber toys for Jake!
 

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Vet checked Jakes stomach and said he couldn't feel any blockage and took his temperature which was fine. Jake was full of himself and excited and looked really sprite and alert. The vet said he seems fine and that just to watch him.

Back home Jake had a poo and it was brown and he ate up his chicken though he only got 1oz again and I will give him some more later on.

For some reason it seems to be the thigh on the bone that he won't eat. I let it get to a nice temperature after taking it out the fridge so that its not chilly and cut off some so that he gets 2oz (the rest he gets later in the afternoon)

So right now Jake is wide awake and looking to play

If he refuses to eat the thigh tomorrow which will be the third day what should I do as just eating the chicken on an afternoon means he is only getting around 2oz a day
 
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